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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Mar 6, 2010 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: favorite new potato caboose?

My favorite version of this beautiful song is the 8.24.68 on two from the vault. Anyone agree/disagree?

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Some earlier thoughts on the subject:

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=117001

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=121407

In a word, I think 2-14-68 takes the prize for narrative coherence, but 3-29-68, 8-22-68, and 3-1-69 are also excellent. Personally, I prefer the versions before the thirteen jams, which flowed best when reduced to twelve beats, and bass solos, which I don't think matched Phil's later, more controlled solos on Eyes and Dark Star.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Thanks to Lou I can see that I already voted--twice, for Aug versions, and that means TFTV for me...

But, I have come to really enjoy the Bellarmine, 7 Dec version, for purely sentimental reasons...I love the sound on that otherwise rather cut up/techno difficulties show...

How can you not appreciate a Phil solo? However, I'd still not pick it to impress a nonDEAD newbie...sorry. Unless they were Jack Bruce...well, okay, he'd probably scoff at the chord changes "being rather obvious"...

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 6, 2010 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

I love Phil solos at their best, and he is after all the greatest bass player ever in popular music. But most of the NPC bass solos sound strained and on edge to me. I don't think the electric bass was meant to be played that fast.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 2:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Really??! I love that stuff...what do you think of Jack Bruce then? I rank him and Phil as my top two all time...and I love a great solo, but sure, SofyourLove, bass line, is hard to beat, as is the one in Spoonful...Phil might be more to your liking in OOne, which I love as well?

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Poster: mickmac Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

My favorite New Potato Chorizo is made right here at The Valley Cafe in central Kansas. It has the right blend of chiles and spices with a touch of apricot.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 5:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Hmmm--I mean: "mmmmm!" Right up my southwest flavor alley (hold the jokes, please)...maybe I'll check it out next trip to Lawrence...further west I take it?

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Poster: mickmac Date: Mar 6, 2010 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

About 2 to 3 hours west and another 45 minutes south. W hat do you go to Lawrence for? Wakarusa?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 7:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Hey--that sounds like it's on the "way" if we drive again! One of the kids is in grad school there...love the town--small uni type with lots of historic bldgs and such--right up my historical interests, etc. Nice campus too.

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Poster: mickmac Date: Mar 6, 2010 7:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Give a shout out if you pass through. Dinners on me. Yes it is a great academic environment there and a fun town. What a great thrill it must be as a parent to know your child is getting an outstanding educational experience there!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Will do! It will be a nice way to celebrate the very FIRST CLIFFSTER's Boxed Set of way back when!

Thanks.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Geddy Lee

Steve Harris

Stanley Clarke

Billy Sheehan

Better than Phil and Jack, IMO.

This post was modified by DeadRed1971 on 2010-03-07 00:47:14

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 5:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Gotta give Clarke his due, that's for sure...don't know the others well enough, and I do admit I have a narrow range of what passes for "great bass" player I suppose...I just love Bruce, and though I've said it many times, I love that line by John Mayall or whomever about the times with the ManfmanBand in which Bruce would show up without practicing, play all the new songs perfectly and they all wondered how he did it, and JM said "he told me the changes and sequences were all self evident", but not in a smug way (or somehting like that...). Musical genius, IMHO.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

I love Jack Bruce more for his singing and songwriting than his bass playing, though there's nothing wrong with his playing. Songs for a Tailor is one of my longstanding favorites.

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Poster: Grateful Rat Date: Mar 6, 2010 7:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Unknown Bass player I liked was Greg Arama of the Amboy Dukes from their Journey to the enter of Your Mind through Marriage on the Rocks albums with Ted Nugent on Guitar.
Greg then played with Dick Wagner(another Michigan artist from Frost, Alice Cooper, Lou Reed) in a band called Ursa Major which had originally planned to have Billy Joel play keyboards but Billy's illness resulted in UM being a trio.
Ted had fired Greg from the Dukes because of drug use and drugs led to Greg Arama demise at an early age. Ted fired a number of people in his bands because of drug use. Some like Greg never learned the lesson

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

Agreed.

Some people prefer the early '68 versions, before that bass solo was added; but I think the extra jamming puts it over the top.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite new potato caboose?

There are many that I enjoy very much including 8/24/68, but my personal favorite will aways be 3/29/68...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-03-29.aud.vernon.9473.sbeok.shnf